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[Kyros]

I was talking about the discission to either refund or exchange an item or not if the weapon requirement was changed as I was back then not a part of the staff I wasn't able to refund/exchange.
The current staff did exchange/refund those.
And we wouldn't change a free job in that matter but I would be alright with changing the weapon and do a stat reset in my opinion.

[Gresh]

many people knew it would be nerfed soon, but still they made an AP hunter, and now they get back their DP. That's very, very unfair imo.

[MonkeyDBunny]

 Kyros, on 17 July 2015 - 12:21 AM, said:

I was talking about the discission to either refund or exchange an item or not if the weapon requirement was changed as I was back then not a part of the staff I wasn't able to refund/exchange.
The current staff did exchange/refund those.
And we wouldn't change a free job in that matter but I would be alright with changing the weapon and do a stat reset in my opinion.

i know and i wasnt referring to the job cause its a free job . maybe on the reset stats only even the weapon is fine. stats was ruined for jobs like those right?

[Kyros]

In my opinion yes, but I can't judge for what the staff did back then.

[Gh0stbuster]

That's sad...

Edited by Gh0stbuster, 18 July 2015 - 01:03 AM.

[BETTLEMAN]

You can't change the system even if you're a GM. Unfair for everyone which for nerf. We spent a lot for the character for what? Nerf and not able to get refunded? Same goes to hunter ap type but they DO get refunded ? How does that make a difference when cleric and katar doesn't work well with each other ? It's the same thing goes to ap hunter which they can't use the dual weapon and cleric can't use a katar. But the dual can get a refund but the cleric can't? That pretty stupid if you ask me and everyone which did experience so many nerf and adjustment within the server. Katar nerf = no refund or stats, cleric - bow = no exchange or refund same goes to the katar and etc with the other nerfs you had done. So why is it fair for you to change their class refund and exchange their weapon for what? Their stupidness for doing it? Do we get our cleric to change to raider? Do we get. Exchange to a wand? Do we get our DP back for our exchanging set? You can't just say you can change the rule all you like when it will ruin he game. Go to the other game servers which is rose or games with activision and ask for a refund? They are successful because they follow the rule and don't change them time to time without notice and get the patch out soon as possible. And their money isn't for waste, we spent money for this game and in-game shit we need equality and we didn't get any during these past server times when it was open. Even tho you are a GM I'm not going against it or because it's ridiculous for people who cried and moan to GM for refund because they are dumb to make it a AP HUNTER when they already know it was going to be fixed. We didn't get a announcement it's going to be fixed with cleric Dex type and katar ap nerf. But the hunter bug was announced earlier to warn people but what? They made it and know they'll get refund pretend they didn't know as I saw XOVER did earlier when everyone in the clan told and warn him so many times its going to fixed? That's a really stupid thing to do refunding people who done it purposely. It's like you know you will get money from your school changes from your school trip and you can keep the change but you told your parents you won't get change back but you pretend you wouldn't have any change but truly you will get a lot from the school change but you still asked the parents, gave him money because for false believes and stupidness because they had the receipt and the payment slip but they turn a blind eye to him. That's what this server doing, it won't be up as long as you keep this up, it will equal to unfair to everyone. Fix problem give those ap hunter back to hunter and their dual blade or give EVERYONE a refund which experience. A nerf adjustment s and fixes which never got refunded. The worlds revolves with everyone and equality game or irl it's everywhere. Get your act together.

^ lol didn't expect that to be that long lolll
Don't think it's just me who thinks this, pretty unfair for people who spent more the those ap hunters which never get a refund. Everyone is quitting and moaning how this server is and asking when it will be down. I heard from people and I never said so but sad to say I heard from many people I'm not online anymore due to the fact it's boring as hell and the game revolves to rule of changes to be exact and we didn't get a refund for the adjustment you made earlier and kyros if I remember properly you were here and tintin was here also which he's the one who refunded about this situation how about the katar situation? Yeah it still can be used but no exchange for a dual wield and stats scroll? How stupid is that?

Edited by Namazaki, 18 July 2015 - 01:27 AM.

[Kyros]

Indeed we where here during the nerf of katars and dual swords.
Every game makes changes and changes includes that you sometimes have to nerf somethings.
We made the choice to specifically refund something to the hunters with dual swords because they couldn't use them at all, now if those changes that happend years a go would be applied now also would have given them an option to exchange their weapon but that was in the past but we can't change that.
When katars and dual swords were adjusted people could still use them and we also slightly upgraded them after we nerfed them because we did not wanted to make them useless but we neither did wanted to make them overpowered and imo the balance between katars and dual swords are now pretty good and both weapons are being used alot.
No we did not refund anything for katars and dual swords because from the start we announced on the forums that when both weapons were nerfed/adjusted that they would be reviewed and adjusted incase they were not balanced.
Also the cleric wand attack power was nerfed once and they neither would have given a refund/exchange as it's a part of the game.
We did also mentioned it a few times that the weapon type for hunter would be adjusted, mostly in-game but we never wrote it somewhere clearly here on the forums and there were already a few hunters that were using dual swords before we even mentioned it.

I'm sorry if you feel it's unfair and I'm really sorry for those who had no refund/exchange option when their weapon became useless for their job.
I'm not sorry for weapons that were nerfed or adjusted as it's a part to keep the game balanced.

tintin might have been off the grid a bit latetly but he's currently working on some big changes which will upgrade the game in a diffrent perspective.
This was also the obstacle which was laying in the path to make any further patches.

[Skippy]

 Kyros, on 18 July 2015 - 07:20 PM, said:

Indeed we where here during the nerf of katars and dual swords.
Every game makes changes and changes includes that you sometimes have to nerf somethings.
We made the choice to specifically refund something to the hunters with dual swords because they couldn't use them at all, now if those changes that happend years a go would be applied now also would have given them an option to exchange their weapon but that was in the past but we can't change that.
When katars and dual swords were adjusted people could still use them and we also slightly upgraded them after we nerfed them because we did not wanted to make them useless but we neither did wanted to make them overpowered and imo the balance between katars and dual swords are now pretty good and both weapons are being used alot.
No we did not refund anything for katars and dual swords because from the start we announced on the forums that when both weapons were nerfed/adjusted that they would be reviewed and adjusted incase they were not balanced.
Also the cleric wand attack power was nerfed once and they neither would have given a refund/exchange as it's a part of the game.
We did also mentioned it a few times that the weapon type for hunter would be adjusted, mostly in-game but we never wrote it somewhere clearly here on the forums and there were already a few hunters that were using dual swords before we even mentioned it.

I'm sorry if you feel it's unfair and I'm really sorry for those who had no refund/exchange option when their weapon became useless for their job.
I'm not sorry for weapons that were nerfed or adjusted as it's a part to keep the game balanced.

tintin might have been off the grid a bit latetly but he's currently working on some big changes which will upgrade the game in a diffrent perspective.
This was also the obstacle which was laying in the path to make any further patches.

I wonder what are those changes I'm so excited

[BETTLEMAN]

So ap hunter can be exchanged but cleric can't when they can't be used also? How's that a difference when it wasn't even announced ?

[Kyros]

If you followed the whole conversation then you would notice that those changes were applied like 4 ~ 5 years a go, it's not even on this forum which is from 2012.

[iwillkillyou]

 Kyros, on 18 July 2015 - 07:20 PM, said:

Indeed we where here during the nerf of katars and dual swords.
Every game makes changes and changes includes that you sometimes have to nerf somethings.
We made the choice to specifically refund something to the hunters with dual swords because they couldn't use them at all, now if those changes that happend years a go would be applied now also would have given them an option to exchange their weapon but that was in the past but we can't change that.
When katars and dual swords were adjusted people could still use them and we also slightly upgraded them after we nerfed them because we did not wanted to make them useless but we neither did wanted to make them overpowered and imo the balance between katars and dual swords are now pretty good and both weapons are being used alot.
No we did not refund anything for katars and dual swords because from the start we announced on the forums that when both weapons were nerfed/adjusted that they would be reviewed and adjusted incase they were not balanced.
Also the cleric wand attack power was nerfed once and they neither would have given a refund/exchange as it's a part of the game.
We did also mentioned it a few times that the weapon type for hunter would be adjusted, mostly in-game but we never wrote it somewhere clearly here on the forums and there were already a few hunters that were using dual swords before we even mentioned it.

I'm sorry if you feel it's unfair and I'm really sorry for those who had no refund/exchange option when their weapon became useless for their job.
I'm not sorry for weapons that were nerfed or adjusted as it's a part to keep the game balanced.

tintin might have been off the grid a bit latetly but he's currently working on some big changes which will upgrade the game in a diffrent perspective.
This was also the obstacle which was laying in the path to make any further patches.

OMG!!! haahah now you're just making me excited !! hahaha

[Iblis]