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[sagivshoker]

From what I have learned in the game is that raider is the best for pvp.
Im a pvp addict.
I wanted to ask what Raider type would you guys recommend (AP raider, HR Raider, Stunned Raider....) for PVP and what stats should i use?
And what items should i buy to get the strongest that i can in pvp (if i donate)|

Thanks guys

[Sephyroth]

for pvp is stunner the best solution , im talking as raider abuser

[Cloud]

sagivshoker, on 12 July 2013 - 08:32 PM, said:

From what I have learned in the game is that raider is the best for pvp.
Im a pvp addict.
I wanted to ask what Raider type would you guys recommend (AP raider, HR Raider, Stunned Raider....) for PVP and what stats should i use?
And what items should i buy to get the strongest that i can in pvp (if i donate)|

Thanks guys

I am just curious that where do u get the conclusion that raider is best for pvp lol?

1.ap raider
u can do normal-hit kill on those low-def char easily
but hard to stun enemy , cant kill high def , cant hit high dr , and dont have good ability on defense side
but ap raider is still really popular in game

2.stunner Raider
with high INT for higher stun %
better anti-stun , and high % to debuff enemy(dr down , def down , mr down)

3.dr raider
with high dr , so can survive easily in war
good anti-stun , but low dmg , low % to stun and debuff

but actually the best pvp player will have all sets(ap , int , dr , hr) to switch for different situation

they will never stick on one type~

Edited by Cloud, 13 July 2013 - 04:15 AM.

[lJCl]

best for PVP? Knight would be the best over all job classes

if u really want raider.. then Int raider suits best.

[VanFlyHigh]

well ap is the best

[Gresh]

depends on how you build your AP raider, I prefer stun + semi dr type raider. Around 900 dex and 600 int. Still good AP and a chance to stun. Also AP wont have any chance to defeat a stun/dr type. I would say stun/ semi dr type.

[calltheshots]

If you know what you're doing then you should be able to drop nearly anything in a stun with a raider(if you know how to play raiders properly) so surely more stuns = more wins, stun raider is best(of raider types)

[Cloud]

calltheshots, on 13 July 2013 - 08:53 PM, said:

If you know what you're doing then you should be able to drop nearly anything in a stun with a raider(if you know how to play raiders properly) so surely more stuns = more wins, stun raider is best(of raider types)

in some cases , stun is not = win

and also , the stun % of raider is low comparing to other jobs

Edited by Cloud, 14 July 2013 - 02:21 AM.

[sagivshoker]

Cloud, on 13 July 2013 - 04:03 AM, said:

I am just curious that where do u get the conclusion that raider is best for pvp lol?

1.ap raider
u can do normal-hit kill on those low-def char easily
but hard to stun enemy , cant kill high def , cant hit high dr , and dont have good ability on defense side
but ap raider is still really popular in game

2.stunner Raider
with high INT for higher stun %
better anti-stun , and high % to debuff enemy(dr down , def down , mr down)

3.dr raider
with high dr , so can survive easily in war
good anti-stun , but low dmg , low % to stun and debuff

but actually the best pvp player will have all sets(ap , int , dr , hr) to switch for different situation

they will never stick on one type~

So i have heard in game from several players that raider is the best
Do you have another opinion?

[Cloud]

sagivshoker, on 14 July 2013 - 03:06 AM, said:

So i have heard in game from several players that raider is the best
Do you have another opinion?

then first , u need to define what is "best"

actually the balance in game is not bad , so u wont see a specific job dominate the pvp

in my opinion , knight/fencer/raider/scout/mage are both good in pvp

which one is best is just depend what u like/want

and also

if u want to see how does a real pvp work , please call those best raiders to pvp FlowingCloud ^^

Edited by Cloud, 14 July 2013 - 03:51 AM.

[calltheshots]

Stun = dead if you know how to build and play a raider, too many wannabes take raiders cause they're fast to level but have no idea about builds, skill bars and timings, maybe you just haven't seen a raider like me yet

[Cloud]

calltheshots, on 14 July 2013 - 04:00 AM, said:

Stun = dead if you know how to build and play a raider, too many wannabes take raiders cause they're fast to level but have no idea about builds, skill bars and timings, maybe you just haven't seen a raider like me yet

I guess u r new here lol

sometimes ppl shud learn do not say that u can make it before trying ^^

welcome to pvp me and try to kill me in a stun with ur raider then ~

[calltheshots]

Cloud, on 14 July 2013 - 04:05 AM, said:

I guess u r new here lol

sometimes ppl shud learn do not say that u can make it before trying ^^

welcome to pvp me and try to kill me in a stun with ur raider then ~

Yeah no problem, once I reach 255, leveling other characters at the moment.

[Cloud]

so what can I say???lol

I pvped more than 1000+ times

sharing the real experience ,

and u r just keep saying that "a raider must be able to kill enemy in a stun" , but ur char is not even max lvl?

Im not going to deny ur thought

I dont really like that "just saying but doing nothing"

actions always speak louder than words

[ikazuyR]

I agree with cloud,. stunning the enemy does not guarantee a win,.
You have to consider the type of pots that your enemy is using as well ;P

[calltheshots]

jb1292, on 14 July 2013 - 04:59 AM, said:

I agree with cloud,. stunning the enemy does not guarantee a win,.
You have to consider the type of pots that your enemy is using as well ;P

Well we'll see, I'm guessing most raiders here use skills once they stunned someone? it isn't the way to drop knights lol

and Cloud I'm not new here, you can ask oldskool player and even GM Jay, my old chars whiped the floor with every pvp char in game, I won every pvp and pvp event for months in a row, I didn't lose once vs anyone and anyone was dead in a stun, maybe the game changed massively but I think I can still do it, ofcourse I didn't try recently cause I just returned and if I am wrong I'll admit it, but I believe I can do it and we'll see once I'm 255 again

Edited by calltheshots, 14 July 2013 - 06:52 AM.

[Gresh]

Guys, better move on in category flame war or off-topic, you don't help sagivshoker with those discussion that you now enter.

[calltheshots]

FlashFire, on 14 July 2013 - 07:13 AM, said:

Guys, better move on in category flame war or off-topic, you don't help sagivshoker with those discussion that you now enter.

Nobody is flaming son chill out, just a discussion, by "we'll see" I literally just mean we will see if it can happen or not.. I'd like to see it myself too, it's not a threat or anything.

Edited by calltheshots, 14 July 2013 - 07:18 AM.

[Gresh]

But still, what you say doesn't make any sense regarding to this topic. Does it matter that you play before and won everything? it isn't about the topic.

[calltheshots]

It's a discussion about raiders, you're the one going off topic.

Edited by calltheshots, 14 July 2013 - 07:44 AM.